These were a few dollars cheaper then the hawk pads next time I'll try the hawk padd or the yellow stuff. Initial bite isn't as good as stock but overall stopping seems solid but with a lot less dust then factory so far trade off I had my stocks for 40000 so hopefully these get more but time will tell
a good high temp alternative
These do a relatively good, consistent job at repeatedly slowing a heavy car during high speed sessions that require constant threshold braking, without fade. Lots of dust in regular everyday driving but at least there is no noise during abrasive braking (no transfer film) mode. For daily driving though ceramic pads like akebonos will suffice. Love Autoanything's price match policy!